Gender Discrimination?
A new Government report again portrays the obvious, telling us that women are paid up to 35% less than men. Cue the feeding frenzy:
“The Human Rights Commission says the evidence of workplace gender inequality is now indisputable, and it calls on public organisations to take action.
““We want people to start fixing the problem, not just identifying it,” equal employment opportunities commissioner Judy McGregor said.”
And:
“Council of Trade Unions president Helen Kelly said the same issues identified in the public sector were also present in the private sector.
“The private sector was “pretty resistant to challenges” on how it paid and employed people.
““Employers object to a lot of things not necessarily on any logical grounds,” Kelly said.”
Yes, Ms Kelly – sounds like employers are a lot like unions, then.
Lets get one thing straight. This report, like so many others, is NOT talking about direct pay-scale discrimination. This is because such discrimination is illegal in New Zealand (and most other first world countries). An employer can not offer a woman less money than a man for doing the same job. This means that women have lower starting salaries than men, because they work for firms (or, in the case of this report, public service organisations) that pay everyone less.
So the real question here is do the higher paying firms have a selection bias towards men, or do women take the lower paying jobs for other reasons? I am certain that one would find some selection bias in small businesses, simply because of the potential burden of maternity leave. My small business associates assure me this would be very slight as the “burden” is not great. I am dubious that there is much selection bias in larger firms and I would like to see some objective evidence of this before making any judgement.
But are there any factors that would cause women to choose lower-paying jobs? What is not factored into most reports are the fringe benefits that may lead women to chose a job that men would be less interested in. Maternity packages, flexible hours and a less-pressurized working environment come to mind immediately. A nicer boss, better workmates and better working conditions tend to feature more strongly in a woman’s choice of a job than a man’s.
I am also sure the same set of factors come into play when promotions are in the offering. In addition, women tend to be far less aggressive and success-orientated than men, often allowing their talent to be overshadowed. It is also likely that some employers mistake this aggressive drive for leadership ability, leading to men being promoted above women (sometimes to the employer’s detriment – drive and ability are not the same thing).
In addition to lower starting salaries and less promotions, the report also sites the fact that some female dominated professions are low-paid. These jobs should be removed from the analysis as they can not be said to reflect gender bias per se. It may be possible to argue that there may be an element of historical gender bias in these professions, but there is no current bias in pay scales or promotion opportunities and no evidence that these jobs are deliberately low-paid because they are female-dominated.
My point in all of this is that these reports do not imply discrimination as such, but more that woman are far more selective in their choice of jobs and use more criteria than simple salary scales. Perhaps it is time that reports like these looked at these choices in more detail instead of generating knee-jerk discrimination responses.
Dec 27 08 8:27 pm
Damn you mac…..I cannot really argue with you here….
Your point has the stench of validity about it.
Of course I could also chip in that employers can usually more often than not get around the HRA….
But why would they want to?
Dec 28 08 12:31 pm
Old attitudes die hard, mac – esp. in NZ.
Dec 30 08 7:24 am
I think you are spot on. I chose my current position for a number of reasons that were outside pay and advancement.
My previous role had had some poisonously horrible people to work with and I really wanted to be sure I was not walking into that situation again.
Further, I did not apply for any of the type roles that would have paid the most (based on what I am qualified to do) because those roles would daily remind me that I had not yet finished training for what I really want to do.
In addition to these factors I was also very aware that I had a tough year or so in front of me as we had just moved islands to be near a relative who was dying. Given this, I figured I had enough stress ahead of me so I applied for the roles that would keep me busy with lots of variety but with far less challenge and responsibility than what I would normally go for.
After factoring all this in, I then went for the best paying option available at that time.
When my circumstances fully change, they are almost there, I will revisit my decision but for now it will do as it is a happy, nice, pleasant and supportive work environment and the work keeps my mind happy and the pay does not suck and most days I don’t have any trouble with the knowledge I could be earning more.
Jan 6 09 1:45 pm
Of course common sense (as you have applied) says that women are not under paid like for like. Objective research says as much. (Mallard Fillmore had several cartoons based on this)
But these studies/surveys have nothing to do with common sense, so any logical arguments pointing out their flaws are useless.
I’ve pointed out on my own blog the bizarre concept of comparing the income of men and women after they get married, and the fact that that exercise is completely meaningless. For my trouble, I got an essay about how men usually take the money for their own use.